The Notorious POD Ep 18: Agent Teams, Zillow, Competition with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton

In this episode, I speak with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton of the Sibbach Team in Phoenix, AZ.

We talk about the realities of today’s real estate, how top agent teams are functioning today, and why he believes Zillow is in fact a competitor. We get into a lot of issues including data, IDX, competition in real estate, technology, big aggregators, and consumer behavior. We debate and disagree, and agree, and hopefully educate ourselves and others.

In fact, there’s rather a lot of civil debate in this one, because both Phil and Jeff are smart, kind and civil individuals who don’t agree with me on everything. That’s exactly how things should be.


Ep. 18: Agent Teams, Zillow, Competition with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton

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Bio of Jeff Sibbach:


In 2018 Jeff was ranked the #1 Agent in Phoenix-Metro by the Phoenix Business Journal. Jeff Sibbach was ranked in the Top 1/10 of 1% in Maricopa County for sales volume in 2018 and in the Top 1% 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. In 2014, 2015, and 2016, 2017 the Sibbach Team was voted #1 Real Estate Team in Arizona by consumers via Ranking Arizona.

Jeff lives, breathes, and eats real estate. The Sibbach Team is a market leader. We are real estate market experts that focus on delivering the best service in the industry to buyers and sellers. Jeff wants to earn your business today and forever so you will be treated like it. He built a team that understands technology and how to use it to sell houses faster and for 5.3% more, and deliver great service doing so. Jeff was also the only Arizona realtor to be named a finalist as the “Most Innovative Real Estate Sales Person of 2016” by Inman, and was named a finalist as the “Most Innovative Real Estate Team of 2017 and 2018”

Bio of Phil Sexton:

Co-Owner of the Sibbach Team at eXp Realty. Phil Sexton has held his Arizona real estate license since 2006. After leaving a corporate Director of Marketing position, he joined forces with Jeff Sibbach in 2012. Since then, they have grown the Sibbach Team’s yearly sales volume by 1,700% to over $276 million in 2020.

He’s a Lumberjack! Graduated from the Northern Arizona University where he studied marketing and customer service. Now he lives in North Scottsdale with his smokin’ hot wife and three kids.

He gets a kick out of public speaking and has been a featured speaker at Inman Conferences, National Association of REALTORS® Conferences, and Arizona REALTORS® Conferences.

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Rob Hahn

Rob Hahn

Managing Partner of 7DS Associates, and the grand poobah of this here blog. Once called "a revolutionary in a really nice suit", people often wonder what I do for a living because I have the temerity to not talk about my clients and my work for clients. Suffice to say that I do strategy work for some of the largest organizations and companies in real estate, as well as some of the smallest startups and agent teams, but usually only on projects that interest me with big implications for reforming this wonderful, crazy, lovable yet frustrating real estate industry of ours.

2 thoughts on “The Notorious POD Ep 18: Agent Teams, Zillow, Competition with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton”

  1. There is a lot of ‘woulda-coulda-shoulda’ from these two.

    It’s rampant in Realtor Land.

    Whining, that for years ‘Tech’ projected the next logical step = Data-ibuyer…..

    Brokerages are just relics of a maladaptive, largely tech-illiterate trade industry full of idiots that cling to the Bullshit “as a realtor I bring VALUE with my Bullshit, Bloated fees. Oh, you found a property to buy, OFF OF THE MLS, and I really need to do nothing? My fee just raised .25% more….”

    Now take your 90 hours of education to become a licensed real agent… take that ANYWHERE else and try to clear 50k a year….. Not happening.

    Get a clue clones. You can be replaced by Python script.

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